July 7, 2022

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“Sorry, only a second. My canine simply picked up a useless rabbit from the arroyo,” Daniel Rossen explains. “That’s a harmful sport in New Mexico. You possibly can choose up the plague, which my canine has completed earlier than. They nonetheless have that down right here!”

Rossen is strolling via the dry riverbed on the heart of Santa Fe with Joey, a mutt he and his spouse rescued from a kill shelter in Tennessee a couple of years again. Since avoiding euthanasia on the shelter, Joey has survived being hit by a automotive and not less than one prior bout with rabbit fever. “She’s been via quite a bit, this canine,” Rossen tells me. “She’s practically died many occasions.”

Such home issues have been on the forefront for Rossen in recent times. The previous (and future?) Grizzly Bear co-frontman and guitarist has lengthy since left that band’s native Brooklyn indie scene behind. He now resides along with his spouse and younger daughter in Santa Fe, which they see as a pleasant center floor between the bustle of metropolis life and their prior dwelling in distant wilderness of upstate New York. “My spouse grew up right here, so we’ve been coming again right here through the years,” he elaborates. “I actually love New Mexico. It’s tremendous stunning right here. I’ve been sort of obsessive about spending time right here typically.”

Santa Fe is the place Rossen wrote and recorded You Belong There, his debut solo album, out later this week on Warp. Rossen has ventured exterior Grizzly Bear fairly a bit through the years, be it along with his different band Division Of Eagles, his spectacular 2012 solo EP Silent Hour/Golden Mile, or a variety of collaborations and random profession quirks. However he’s by no means launched a full album of fabric below his personal identify till now. It’s acceptable that this of all albums function his solo debut; though Rossen deliberate to report these songs with various collaborators in Los Angeles two years in the past, the pandemic compelled him to make You Belong There a extra really solitary affair, with hardly any exterior contributions past some drum components by Grizzly Bear’s Christopher Bear.

If the branding is completely different, the sound is acquainted. Followers of Rossen’s slicing, spiraling guitar work and complex preparations will immediately acknowledge his signature touches in these songs, a few of which prolong to 5, six, even seven minutes. He got down to make music that’s each profoundly technical and deeply emotional — an trustworthy portrait of his private life and stylistic pursuits, no matter whether or not it aligns with any sort of zeitgeist. He succeeded in each regard. You Belong There contains a number of the most breathtaking music of his profession.

Whereas Rossen strolled via the arroyo, we talked about his new album and fairly a couple of noteworthy moments from his profession to date, from the JoJo cowl he recorded for Ed Droste’s birthday to performing on the blog-rock nostalgia competition Simply Like Heaven to collaborations with the likes of Robin Pecknold, the Nationwide, and Michael McDonald. And inevitably, we spoke concerning the open-ended way forward for Grizzly Bear. Learn excerpts from our interview beneath, the place you can even discover Rossen’s newly launched video for the brand new album’s lead single “Shadow In The Body” by director Luke Bern Carr.

You Belong There (2022)

The actual sound of your voice, your guitar taking part in, your writing type naturally strikes me as Grizzly Bear. Once you’re writing a solo work, is the method completely different? How so?

DANIEL ROSSEN: It’s considerably completely different. Writing course of, it varies. It diverse even throughout the band. However this one was far more of a journey in that means. I didn’t actually bounce these concepts off of just about anyone. I labored with Chris Bear, the drummer from the band, on this report, however that was sort of extra in direction of the tail finish. I suppose it’s extra releasing. It’s additionally far more isolating and could be far more complicated as a result of I don’t actually have anybody to inform me a technique or one other if something sounds good or unhealthy. I suppose it’s possibly extra intuitive, the place I simply should comply with the emotion of the track wherever it goes? And that may be in direction of instructions which can be tougher to hearken to or simpler to hearken to. And it’s simply sort of no matter it’s.

The aim of this report, if something, was to simply be tremendous trustworthy about my musical pursuits and trustworthy about myself and my life and probably not maintain something again — and never fear an excessive amount of if the songs got here off too darkish or too lengthy or too revealing of my private life or any path like that. I used to be simply sort of like, properly, I’m reaching this level in my life, I’m in my late thirties — I simply wished to make an announcement that meant one thing in my very own life and in my family and in my very own world no matter how it’s obtained on the opposite facet. I suppose that’s definitely a distinction from the way in which a band would possibly operate.

What sort of stuff had been you excited about, or what components of your self had been you making an attempt to share, whereas engaged on these songs?

ROSSEN: The final 10 years or so of my life there’s been plenty of massive transitions. I moved out of the town. I moved sort of means out into the center of nowhere for a very long time and sort of began this new life in a means. I’ve by no means been a really careerist individual, however particularly beginning at that time, like after Shields got here out, I sort of began to stroll away just a little bit from my very own profession. Quite a bit has occurred the previous couple of years. I bought married. I’ve a baby now. I’ve been via private struggles and interpersonal modifications in my life. I felt like I hadn’t put out a set of songs that basically handled my very own emotional expertise in a extra direct means since in all probability In Ear Park or one thing. This was a very good alternative for me to dig into that facet of myself a bit extra and simply be just a little bit extra, I suppose, susceptible in a means that you could’t actually do in a band setting.

In order that was a part of it. After which the opposite facet was simply exploring my older music pursuits, which veer in direction of extra through-composed music and classical stuff and jazz stuff that I beloved and blurring the road between association and improvised songwriting. Like making an attempt to tug off songs that contain the in depth, no matter, craft I’ve, however making an attempt to do it in a means that’s emotional and direct and trustworthy — not simply, like, wanky riffing, which is all the time a danger with extra technical music. That was an enormous curiosity for me: How are you going to do a report that’s like soul via craft. Not essentially alienating technical music. A few of my favourite music could be very technical but it surely’s tremendous emotional and exquisite, you realize? So I wished to see if I may do this.

Do you are feeling such as you found out how?

ROSSEN: Probably not. [Laughs] However I imply, it’s no completely different than it’s all the time been. You don’t wish to assume an excessive amount of about technical particulars in music ever while you’re writing. It ought to all the time be intuitive. However I’ve observed that in music discourse in recent times there’s plenty of “craft vs. tradition” dialog, and I feel it’s all tremendous attention-grabbing and legitimate, and I agree with plenty of it. However after I dig into the deep previous music historical past that I actually love, plenty of my favourite music is definitely fairly technical. However you wouldn’t essentially consider it that means. Just like the taking part in of someone like Baden Powell. There’s Brazilian information which can be tremendous technical however actually stunning and actually direct. It was one thing I actually wished to attempt to do. In some methods I feel that’s possibly going to be the venture for the remainder of my musical life is taking all these components of myself and making use of them directly if I can.

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I perceive you discovered to play woodwinds to carry out the preparations on this report?

ROSSEN: Type of. I imply, I wouldn’t say I precisely discovered, however I discovered properly sufficient to hack via it, yeah.

Was {that a} comfort and economics factor, or was it about difficult your self, or what?

ROSSEN: It was a comfort factor. I do get pleasure from studying new devices. It’s one thing I’ve all the time love to do. However that was extra comfort. This report, over the course of the pandemic, the way in which I did this — I had the studio time in LA deliberate for about April of 2020. [Laughs] After which after all the whole lot modified. I used to be going to go on the market and attempt to work with some string gamers and horn gamers and begin doing that, however then after all the whole lot fell aside. And I couldn’t journey. I’ve a younger baby. I couldn’t depart. So this report grew to become far more about studying do the whole lot I presumably may myself.

And yeah, a part of that was choosing up some low-cost devices and making an attempt to enhance [my ability] on them. I’m simply probably not the sort of individual that may write down preparations and ship them off. That’s simply probably not how I work. So I figured if I’m going to do that the way in which I wish to, and do the preparations intuitively and on the fly, I sort of should study some extra abilities. I wasn’t serious about utilizing all of the synthesizers and faux components. [Laughs] I simply wished to do it for actual. I felt like that problem has all the time been thrilling to me. So it was in line with the spirit of the report. Plenty of the fundamental guitar tracks had been fluid takes. Like, a number of the stuff wasn’t even completed to a tempo or a click on, it was simply me rolling with the takes that I had and constructing from there. So it type of made sense to me to choose up no matter acoustic devices I may and layer it that means.

Performances With Fleet Foxes’ Robin Pecknold: With Van Dyke Parks In London (2012), Masking Pearl Jam On Fallon (2013), Gene Clark Tribute Tour (2014)

You’ve got a longstanding artistic relationship with Robin Pecknold. He’s working in an analogous vein the place he’s bought these very elaborate folk-rock preparations occurring. Is an analogous musical vibe what drew you guys collectively? How did you hit it off?

ROSSEN: I’ve identified him endlessly. I truthfully assume he wrote me on MySpace. I had completed that Judee Sill cowl, and I feel he wrote me on MySpace in like 2007 or one thing? Robin’s a extremely candy man. He’s tremendous humorous. He’s only a nice individual, and I all the time have plenty of respect for him. I feel he’s a tremendous singer and songwriter. He’s a kind of actual folks within the music world that I’ve all the time wished to maintain up with ’trigger I simply assume he’s a fantastic individual.

However yeah, I feel we first began speaking about music due to our, I suppose, shared love of Judee Sill’s music? He has actually wide-ranging tastes, as I suppose I do too. It’s been cool to witness the entire arc of his profession on the market. It’s fairly wild.

Van Dyke is one other shared love of ours, I suppose. And we’ve each had the prospect to work together with him through the years. He’s an actual character. He’s fairly enjoyable to be in a room with. So we had been enthusiastic about that only for the expertise of it. And clearly Tune Cycle is clearly an album that I really like, and so does Robin.

I don’t keep in mind how the Pearl Jam factor occurred. That was one thing Robin was invited to do. He’s considerably linked to the Pearl Jam world by way of Seattle music stuff. I don’t precisely know the small print of that. However he was invited to do a kind of songs, and he was like, “Why don’t you do it with me?” That was purely having a very good time, simply making an attempt to do one thing enjoyable. It was fairly informal.

Childhood Elvis Impersonation (1987-88)

ROSSEN: I used to be 5. That was a kind of first loves, I suppose, musical obsessions as just a little child. I feel it was “Jailhouse Rock” my dad and mom placed on, and I bought actually fixated with imitating him and holding the guitar. I clearly didn’t play something but or sing or something, however I might take a look at image books and hearken to the information and attempt to mimic his poses simply primarily based on the images. I feel the one video I had seen was the ’68 comeback particular, which is fairly ridiculous. It’s fairly nice. However yeah, that was like my first musical curiosity, I suppose, was Elvis for a few 12 months. And I bought actually into making an attempt to type myself and pose as finest I may. Didn’t lead straight into any type of musical life, precisely, but it surely’s a kind of humorous early childhood issues.

Do you continue to ever hearken to Elvis now?

ROSSEN: [Laughs] Uh, probably not. I imply, he comes on the Christmas mixes for certain. There’s a number of good Christmas materials if you wish to dig into that. It’s clearly basic, however there’s plenty of different music and plenty of attention-grabbing rock ‘n’ roll on the market. It’s not simply this one factor. I’m far more of a Little Richard man now, I might say, of that period of music.

Masking JoJo’s “Too Little, Too Late” (2007)

Transferring on to a really completely different sort of pop music, what’s the story behind this cowl?

ROSSEN: That was a birthday present to Ed [Droste], truly. He likes his pop music. He all the time did greater than I did. However he loved that track. He despatched it to me as a problem, like, “Are you able to do that? Are you able to make one thing out of this?” It was sort of jokingly. And I recorded that and I despatched it to him personally as a birthday present. That’s the origin of it.

Have been you accustomed to the track earlier than he despatched it to you?

ROSSEN: No. I used to be not. Nevertheless it was a enjoyable problem. I really like doing stuff like that. I get pleasure from overlaying something, particularly music that’s actually completely different from mine. It’s all the time an fulfilling train. I feel it was a very good present. He appeared like he loved it on the time. It was a enjoyable second again then — means again.

Barry Jenkins & Chopstars’ Chopped And Screwed Grizzly Bear Album Purple Veckatimest / Painted Ruins (2017)

Have been you guys concerned in any respect in that? Are you aware something concerning the genesis of it?

ROSSEN: We weren’t concerned in it. We met him afterwards. He occurs to be a fan, and he additionally is a large — he loves the whole lot chopped and screwed. I feel that’s his most popular mode of listening, or it was on the time. I don’t know what he’s to date. However yeah, it was his thought to place that collectively. I believed it was nice. It was enjoyable.

Have you ever listened to a lot chopped and screwed music your self?

ROSSEN: [Laughs] We did, again within the day. It’s not one thing I take into consideration an excessive amount of, however I get pleasure from it. OG Ron C. He’s nice.

Michael McDonald Leaping On “Whereas You Wait For The Others” (2009)

Was that uncommon to have one other individual singing your lyrics, or was that one thing that occurred quite a bit between you and Ed?

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ROSSEN: It’s fairly uncommon. The thought of that in any respect was similar to, I’m not all the time an enormous fan of remixes. On the time it appeared like a extra attention-grabbing factor to simply hold the track precisely because it was and have someone else sing it. That occurs to be a track that which may work for. Plenty of stuff that I personally do, and even the band does, doesn’t translate properly to different singers or different efficiency — which could be a discredit to our songwriting means, truthfully. Actually good songs often you are able to do that. Nevertheless it appeared like a enjoyable method to a remix was to have someone completely completely different from us carry out the track. I don’t keep in mind who had the connection. I feel Chris Taylor in some way had a way of contacting him, and amazingly, he was up for it. I couldn’t consider he was prepared to do it in any respect.

I really like Michael McDonald’s voice. I feel he’s an unbelievable singer typically. Clearly there’s a sure tongue-in-cheek side to it given the distinction within the sort of music he often does and what our music is, but it surely was an honor to have him and he’s wonderful.

Did you correspond with him in any respect? Like, did you talk about how he was going to method the vocal?

ROSSEN: No, we simply despatched it over. I feel we despatched him a lyrics sheet. Taylor might need had some contact with him, Chris might need. I had no contact with him ever. I didn’t even meet him. We simply despatched him the instrumental with the lyrics, and he did it. The primary time listening to that was simply the remoted vocal performed tremendous loud on the bus system with out the monitor beneath it, which was fairly thrilling and wonderful to hearken to, as you possibly can think about. Yeah, that was a spotlight. That’s like a life spotlight, that taking place. It was nice.

I suppose that was a pair years earlier than there was Bruce Hornsby on a Bon Iver album, but it surely appeared like plenty of that soft-rocking sort stuff was beginning to get a reconsideration round that point.

ROSSEN: Michael McDonald, I feel, occupies a particular spot. As a result of he’s a extremely unbelievable singer. I really feel like he’s a revered character exterior the, like, “yacht rock” world, to be trustworthy. I feel he’s greater than that. However clearly that affiliation can’t be shaken.

Masking “Terrapin Station (Suite)” With The Nationwide On The Grateful Useless Tribute Album Day Of The Useless (2016)

Are you a longtime Useless fan/Deadhead?

ROSSEN: No. [Laughs] Probably not. I imply, I get pleasure from Jerry Garcia. I feel he’s a really charming, nice singer, and I really like his taking part in. There’s a couple of Grateful Useless albums that I’ve loved, like, clearly, the classics. American Magnificence and Workingman’s Useless and Shakedown Avenue, stuff from that period. I get pleasure from these information. However no, I’m positively not a Deadhead. I don’t have any information of the live performance tapes. Plenty of the songs I actually don’t significantly like very a lot. And “Terrapin Station,” to be trustworthy, it’s an attention-grabbing track — positively not my favourite, and was very a lot not a selection of mine. Particularly the lyric is so loopy and felt insane to sing. Like, making an attempt to sing that significantly was fairly exhausting. “Let my inspiration stream,” and all that, and “the spiral mild of Venus.” Actually, actually insane factor to attempt to sing significantly. In order that was a part of the problem.

Chris Bear and I labored fairly a bit on a number of the secondary instrumental sections to attempt to make them really feel extra distinctive. That felt like an analogous sort of problem to — properly, it’s not the identical because the JoJo cowl. Clearly that was means completely different from the track. And the Nationwide guys labored a ton on the “Terrapin Station” factor. Like, clearly, they did an enormous quantity of labor on that and it was a collaboration, et cetera. However for me and Chris it felt much like [the JoJo cover]. It was like, how do you cowl a track as ridiculous as this and never really feel such as you’re faking it? Not really feel such as you’re faking it, really feel such as you’re truly taking it significantly. Which is hard. Nevertheless it’s an attention-grabbing tune. I loved doing it. It was enjoyable. I’m not going to speak shit concerning the Useless.

Was the Nationwide like, “We really feel such as you’re an ideal match for this track specifically”? How did you find yourself on that track?

ROSSEN: I had requested doing one thing less complicated. I feel I selected “Excessive Time” from Workingman’s Useless. It’s simply sort of a straight up nation ripoff sort of track. And I did it, and it was advantageous. However they particularly had been like, “It’s important to do that track.” Like, “We wish you to do ‘Terrapin Station.’” Which appeared loopy to me, however you realize, I used to be sport to strive it.

Enjoying “The Celebration” On Stage With St. Vincent (2009)

ROSSEN: We had been on tour collectively. I feel we did it a good variety of nights. It was for that tour specifically. I feel she was touring alone at the moment, and he or she was on the lookout for just a little assist on a pair issues. It was a sort of off-the-cuff factor, however I feel we did that each evening in Europe.

So she was doing a solo present?

ROSSEN: She was simply taking part in solo with us on the highway. I don’t assume she had any band along with her.

That’s attention-grabbing to consider contemplating the way in which her present is now.

ROSSEN: I do know! It was a really completely different time in her profession for certain.

The Veckatimest Leak (2009)

This is among the extra well-known leaks of the weblog period. On the time I keep in mind you guys being upset about it. The audio high quality on the leak was fairly unhealthy. It was tremendous irritating, I think about. Trying again now, do you assume it was a internet constructive? A internet detrimental? Do you could have any completely different perspective on it now?

ROSSEN: I don’t actually. If something now it looks like simply gossip. It doesn’t really feel like something. I don’t know if it modified the course of our lives in any vital means. On the time it was anticipated. Leaks would occur on a regular basis then. It was, “How quickly is it going to leak? Proper when the report comes out or a couple of months earlier than?” And it’s sort of bullshit, actually, like, “Who cares?” My perspective on it now’s I haven’t thought of it in in all probability 10 years. It appeared like a disgrace on the time. Clearly you need folks to listen to it with the correct audio high quality. However 4 months later or so the report got here out. All of it labored out. It was advantageous.

Jay-Z And Beyoncé Attend A Grizzly Bear Present (2009)

On the time there was plenty of speak about indie rock crossing over to a mainstream viewers, and possibly the enduring second for that was Jay-Z and Beyoncé trying out considered one of your reveals. I assume it wasn’t a case the place you truly noticed them standing there within the viewers, however did which have any sort of private or profession affect for you guys?

ROSSEN: I don’t assume so, actually. It was thrilling. That was clearly an honor to have them there. That was a complicated interval, I feel, for lots of bands. We had been sort of arty indie rock no matter band from the aughts. I feel we had been in an odd place as a result of plenty of our strengths had been sort of by no means associated to creating something to do with pop music. We simply occurred to have a pair songs that sort of did just a little bit for a time. One thing like “Two Weeks,” it’s enjoyable to play, but it surely doesn’t significantly characterize most of what we ever did over the course of our profession. It’s one factor, but it surely’s probably not linked to a lot else that we did. If something, this attract of indie rock or no matter style crossing over to some sort of thought of mainstream feels very quaint now. The default mode now’s to do one thing that’s pop-adjacent. That’s the appropriate selection. That’s what you’re imagined to do. And we had been largely simply making bizarre arty music, and we proceed to do this. And we had a pair sort of pop-adjacent songs.

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I feel if something that interval affected the course of the band just a little bit in type of pushing us to really feel like we needed to pursue extra pop-adjacent music. And I feel some cool issues got here of that. Like I don’t even essentially assume that’s flawed. I feel a few of what we did was nice in that realm, and I don’t have an issue with it. However I do assume it modified the trajectory typically. Not them being on the present. No matter, that was enjoyable sufficient. Having that track and having this glimmer of connection to the Billboard charts or one thing. It modified the way in which we thought of what we had been doing, for higher and for worse, in all completely different instructions. It positively influenced the course of the band profoundly, I’m certain.

That’s attention-grabbing as a result of I don’t consider Shields as a pop report.

ROSSEN: Properly that’s ’trigger in plenty of methods it was a really direct try to go within the different path. Apart from a pair songs like “But Once more” and possibly “Gunshy” or one thing. Most of that report is, like, very pointedly making an attempt to do the alternative of that. That was one other bigger dialog that we had been having. However I feel it felt like sort of a triumph on the time to do this, to push to make a more difficult, unusual report at that second. I’m very grateful for that interval of the band. Attending to play fairly massive venues, play like Radio Metropolis and shut the present with a track like “Solar In Your Eyes,” which is that this completely weird eight-minute transferring piece of music that has no actual refrain, actually. The truth that we had been capable of pull that off nonetheless is loopy to me. I don’t perceive how we did it. I look again very fondly general on that interval for certain. I’m fairly grateful for that point that we had.

That’s my favourite Grizzly Bear album.

ROSSEN: I do know there are particular songs on that report that folks get pleasure from however that’s not often a favourite of individuals’s, I really feel like. Shields is just not usually the highest of individuals’s listing. It’s attention-grabbing to listen to you say that. I’m nonetheless keen on that report.

I really feel prefer it has an enormous following within the Stereogum remark part.

ROSSEN: Huh. That’s humorous. That’s cool! That’s good to know.

Enjoying The Weblog Rock Nostalgia Competition Like Heaven (2019)

This was principally the entire hottest indie bands of 2009 on a competition collectively in 2019. What had been your emotions about that?

ROSSEN: I feel it felt just a little bit — I don’t know. It felt unhealthy, possibly, to be trustworthy. One factor that was humorous, it was additionally like so many dudes. You return that far in music and it’s like a lot much less range of expertise happening. It was bizarre. God, I sort of forgot that it was like this. That was a bizarre time as a result of we had already stopped touring. All people was sort of on a break. My daughter was like six months previous then. That was the primary journey I’d taken out of city. It felt like a really surreal expertise. Like why is that this even occurring proper now? That’s sort of what it felt like.

However you realize, we had a adequate time taking part in the set. It felt like an actual afterthought when it comes to that report cycle and touring cycle and the whole lot. It was like, “Properly, right here we’re once more. That is unusual.” And to not point out it’s with a bunch of bands from 15 years in the past. I feel Grizzly Bear particularly by that interval was in all probability extra conscious of the truth that we’re clearly tied to a special time. We’re tied to the aughts and early 2010s. No person needs to really feel like they’re relegated to a different period, however I really feel like that competition actually drove the purpose dwelling. Like, “Oh yeah. OK.” That’s who we’re. Nevertheless it was enjoyable sufficient. It was good to see the Seashore Home guys. That was enjoyable to see them once more.

Do you assume that sense has contributed to the band being inactive presently and everyone doing their very own factor?

ROSSEN: No, I wouldn’t say that. I feel the place we are actually is only a very pure — you realize, Grizzly Bear, I joined that band on the finish of 2004, so that you take into account how lengthy that was. The stretch that we had been lively was like 14 years. And I feel if something it’s similar to, folks change, lives change. I actually respect bands and artists that may hold it collectively endlessly, however I feel all of us simply wished to do some various things with our lives for just a little bit. That doesn’t imply the band’s over. It’s not. There’s no official line on that. We’re not damaged up or something. It’s simply, you realize, Ed is pursuing a special profession. He went again to highschool. He wished to do this. He was having not the best time on the highway. It was not nice for him.

It wasn’t actually nice for any of us by the tip, truthfully. It was simply… we wished to do one thing completely different. And I feel particularly the sort of music Grizzly Bear made, it relies upon very a lot on intuitive chemistry between us. When it was actually nice, I really feel like that’s what was there. And you may’t actually predict that. That comes and goes with none enter essentially from us, typically. It’s so fickle, relationships between 4 folks. That’s what I might say. However once more, all of us nonetheless discuss. We’re all nonetheless in contact. And I nonetheless actually care about all of them. I’m certain we’ll do one thing sooner or later, I simply don’t know what or when.

Within the meantime, do you anticipate persevering with to make information like You Belong There, or does it rely on how this one is obtained, or what?

ROSSEN: I’m certain I’ll hold making music in some kind. Whether or not I’m releasing it and making an attempt to tour it, I don’t know. Perhaps. In the meanwhile I’m engaged on some movie rating stuff, which has been attention-grabbing. That’s like a enjoyable new expertise. I’ve been having fun with that. I actually don’t know. All the things feels so fluid proper now. The music trade is clearly altering consistently and could be very completely different from the one I got here into. And I’m clearly fairly conscious that the sort of music that I do is simply actually not significantly related to any present musical cultural discourse in any respect. So my ambition is simply to proceed making an attempt to make work which means one thing within the context of my life and the few folks that care about what I’m doing. And whether or not which means placing out albums or doing scores or I don’t know — no matter it finally ends up being, no matter I can maintain, is what I’m going to do.

All I actually need is to have an honest life, one thing that’s comparatively modest, that permits us to each proceed being artists. My spouse’s an artist too. We simply need to have the ability to maintain that. So I’m simply going to do no matter I can to make that occur. I hope which means extra information, however I don’t know. That does rely just a little bit on how this goes. I don’t know that I set myself up too properly by making a brilliant arty report with a bunch of seven- and eight-minute songs on it. That’s not precisely going to set me up for blockbuster success, and I clearly know that. However once more, I wish to make information now that I can really feel happy with after I’m older no matter whether or not anyone hears them. That’s sort of the aim now. I wish to make issues that I can speak about with my daughter when she’s older and really feel like they’re true statements and issues that I’m happy with and characterize my ardour.